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Zeke got his last night, and Kamara still has 2 years to go on his rookie contract.

I seriously doubt he'll play for $977,500 in 2020.

 

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If you draft elite talent, you have to retain it or you'll become the Browns of the past decade(sans last season)

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14 minutes ago, SaintRay said:

Zeke got his last night, and Kamara still has 2 years to go on his rookie contract.

I seriously doubt he'll play for $977,500 in 2020.

 

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Yea he the next Zeke fo sure. 

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After an all-night negotiating session sorting out the details of a massive new deal, the Dallas Cowboys and Ezekiel Elliott finally have a contract extension.

It ends a standoff that was sometimes reminiscent of the Emmitt Smith holdout in 1993, as the two sides reached a whopping six-year, $90 million contract extension that will make Elliott the highest paid running back in the history of the NFL, a source confirmed to Yahoo! Sports.

ESPN’s Ed Werder was the first to report the contract figures Wednesday. Although the specific cash flow of the deal has yet to be revealed, sources confirmed to Yahoo! Sports that it will contain $50 million in guarantees and ultimately extend the remaining years of Elliott's current deal through 2026. The total cash outlay in that eight-year period will be nearly $103 million.

The six-year extension for Elliott eclipses the four-year $60 million pact signed by the Los Angeles Rams’ Todd Gurley in 2018, setting a record in average salary and overall money for the running back position. Interestingly, that’s precisely what Cowboys chief operating officer Stephen Jones said Dallas wouldn’t be doing as recently as August, going so far to state in July that Dallas “damn sure” wouldn’t be a market-setter as it slugged out extensions with multiple players.

Elliott apparently qualified as an exception, which always seemed likely given that that his deal is expected to ultimately be the cheapest of the Cowboys’ “big three” extensions – including quarterback Dak Prescott and wideout Amari Cooper. It also seemed to become more likely as Elliott stood his ground and missed all of the preseason, pushing Dallas into a situation where it had to face having a crucial centerpiece off the field when the regular season began against the New York Giants on Sunday.

 
Zeke who? He's the running back team owner Jerry Jones made a deal with to end a holdout. (Getty Images)


That concern will now fall to the wayside with Elliott reporting for meetings Wednesday morning and expected to be on the practice field in preparation of Week 1. Also important to the franchise and Elliott, it ends a negotiation that got testy at carious times, as Elliott sought to remain in Cabo San Lucas, Mexico during the preseason while his representatives worked on the deal. That move put the running back out of reach of the franchise, which has in the past tried to break contract impasses by requesting a direct meeting with players.

Elliott’s deal now becomes the fourth major “building block” contract extension since last season, including deals for defensive end DeMarcus Lawrencelinebacker Jaylon Smith and offensive tackle La’el Collins. The agreement also sets the table for Dallas to more aggressively search for the right contract fits for Prescott and Cooper, whose long-term deals have now become more challenging as the team tries to calculate fitting their future salaries into a salary-cap structure that will be stretched to its limits over the next few years. Particularly in Prescott’s case, on the heels of the four-year $134 million extension signed by Rams quarterback Jared Goff this week. That deal is expected to anchor Prescott’s salary in a similar space.

Elliott’s deal leaves the NFL with two remaining holdouts: Washington Redskins offensive tackle Trent Williams and Los Angeles Chargers running back Melvin Gordon.

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20 minutes ago, Handsome_Jimmy said:

Let him gain 1000 yds rushing first.

That's a simple function of additional carries.

Zeke career rushing average is 4.7

Alvin career rushing average is 5.1

So to dismiss Kamara because of the 1,000 yard debate is argumentative at best.

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4 minutes ago, SaintRay said:

That's a simple function of additional carries.

Zeke career rushing average is 4.7

Alvin career rushing average is 5.1

So to dismiss Kamara because of the 1,000 yard debate is argumentative at best.

You forgot durability 

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46 minutes ago, SaintRay said:

That's a simple function of additional carries.

Zeke career rushing average is 4.7

Alvin career rushing average is 5.1

So to dismiss Kamara because of the 1,000 yard debate is argumentative at best.

 

How good of an inside runner is Kamara?

 

I think he gets paid, but not exacly Zeke money.

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1 hour ago, Handsome_Jimmy said:

You forgot durability 

No, I didn't.

Kamara missed one week due to a concussion on a direct helmet to helmet hit. And here's a bonus question ... which team did that?

He averages 251 touches per year.

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Kamara's a better receiver than all those backs, but not quite as proven from a "bell cow" back standpoint.

Will be interesting to see how his contract works out.  If I were his agent, I'd lean heavily on pass catching stats and info to make the claim I should get top receiver type money or a hybrid between RB&WR.

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The Cowboys can be thrilled with Elliott, but I'm thrilled with Kamara in a Saints uniform.

 

Elliott Career Stats

40 games

34 TD's

4.7 per rush

8.9 per reception

Did not play in 8 games

 

Kamara Career Stats

31 games

32 TD's

5.1 per rush

9.5 per reception

Did not play in 1 game

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12 minutes ago, SaintRay said:

No, I didn't.

Kamara missed one week due to a concussion on a direct helmet to helmet hit. And here's a bonus question ... which team did that?

He averages 251 touches per year.

Fizzled in the playoffs both years.

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7 minutes ago, takeitdown said:

Kamara's a better receiver than all those backs, but not quite as proven from a "bell cow" back standpoint.

Will be interesting to see how his contract works out.  If I were his agent, I'd lean heavily on pass catching stats and info to make the claim I should get top receiver type money or a hybrid between RB&WR.

He was 'that guy" for the fist 4 games in 2018 while Ingram was out on suspension.

He ran for 275 yards, averaged 4.9 per carry and caught another 336 yards of balls for a 8.9 average, plus scored 6 times.

Not a bad performance in a bell cow role.

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1 minute ago, SaintRay said:

He was 'that guy" for the fist 4 games in 2018 while Ingram was out on suspension.

He ran for 275 yards, averaged 4.9 per carry and caught another 336 yards of balls for a 8.9 average, plus scored 6 times.

Not a bad performance in a bell cow role.

See Saquon for bell cow and CMC for all around.  They excel with a lesser supporting cast.

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53 minutes ago, DawnOfThemBirds said:

 

How good of an inside runner is Kamara?

 

I think he gets paid, but not exacly Zeke money.

 

46 minutes ago, Handsome_Jimmy said:

Like a fart in a windstorm.

Kamara averaged his highest YPC between the RG and LG in his first 2 seasons. I don’t have the access to the charts anymore, but he gained the majority of his yards between the guards. 

3 minutes ago, SaintRay said:

He was 'that guy" for the fist 4 games in 2018 while Ingram was out on suspension.

He ran for 275 yards, averaged 4.9 per carry and caught another 336 yards of balls for a 8.9 average, plus scored 6 times.

Not a bad performance in a bell cow role.

He led the league in scrimmage yards before Ingram came back. 

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Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys blinked, awarding disgruntled running back Ezekiel Elliott a six-year, $90 million extension on Wednesday, bringing his total contract value to $103 million over eight years, with $50 million guaranteed. The contract extension makes Elliott the league’s top-paid running back, pushing Todd Gurley’s $14.375 million per year out of the No. 1 spot.

On the surface, paying Elliott, a two-time Pro Bowler who led the NFL in touches (381) and rushing yards (1,434) in 2018 (and in rushing yards in 2016), makes sense. But a deeper look suggests that this will be a waste of precious cap dollars for the Cowboys.

Let’s start at the macro level and acknowledge that the NFL has transformed into a passing league. In 2002, the first year the league expanded to 32 franchises, teams averaged 27.5 rushing attempts per game. That figure peaked in 2003 at 28.3 rushes per game but has been on a steady decline ever since, with teams averaging 25.9 rushes per game in 2018, the lowest in pro football history.

Team spending on running backs has seen a similar decline. According to Spotrac, the average cap hit for a running back in 2013, the first year data is available, was $6.2 million, accounting for almost five percent of all available cap dollars. In 2019, the cap hit for a running back dropped to $5.7 million, just three percent of available cap dollars. Spending on quarterbacks, meanwhile, rose from an average of $9.8 million (less than eight percent of cap) in 2013 to $16.9 million (8.4 percent) in 2019.

Why is positional spending at running back on the decline? Because rushing is not nearly as important to winning games in the NFL as passing. According to data researcher Ed Feng, 85 percent of playoff teams from 1998 through 2017 had a positive pass efficiency, while only 58 percent of playoff teams during that same period had a positive team rush efficiency. As football analyst Chase Stewart wrote, “teams can move the chains and drain the clock with the short passing game,” devaluing the running game even more. And as Jeremy Arkes, an associate professor of economics at the Naval Postgraduate School, wrote in a paper, the conventional wisdom “that controlling the running game is the key to winning in the NFL may be a misguided belief,” and NFL teams “have greater success by focusing on the passing games, both offensively and defensively.”

Football Outsiders ranked Elliott as the ninth most-valuable back of 2018 per Defense-adjusted Yards Above Replacement and 18th per Defense-adjusted Value Over Average. That means eight rushers had more total value than Elliott last season, and 17 produced more value per play. (Defense-adjusted Yards Above Replacement compares Elliott’s performance to replacement level and adjusts it for situation and opponent.)

Running backs at the top of this list include Gurley (who scored a league-leading 21 total touchdowns in 2018), Derrick Henry of the Titans (whose 4.2 yards per carry after contact in 2018 was second in the NFL) and the Saints’ Alvin Kamara (whose 18 total touchdowns in 2018 were second to Gurley). Gurley, Henry and the Chargers’ Melvin Gordon make up the top three in Defense-adjusted Yards Above Replacement, which represents value, per play, over an average running back in the same game situations.

Where does this difference come from? On red-zone carries in 2018, Elliott produced a first down or touchdown slightly more than a third of the time (10 first downs and five touchdowns on 39 carries). That success rate ranked him just 28th out of 47 qualified running backs, per data from TruMedia. The league average was closer to 50 percent. Gordon converted 18 of 24 red zone carries (75 percent) into a touchdown or first down in 2018. Gurley was at 67 percent and Kamara was at 63 percent. Henry was also above-average at 53 percent.

Other metrics agree. The game charters at Pro Football Focus ranked Elliott 14th among 23 running backs that played at least half of their team’s rushing snaps last year, and that takes into account the 77 catches for 567 yards and three touchdowns he produced out of the backfield. The Giants’ Saquon Barkley was PFF’s highest-rated running back of the year after the rookie led the league in yards from scrimmage (2,028). Other running backs ahead of Elliott include Christian McCaffrey of the Panthers, Kamara, Gordon, Gurley and Kareem Hunt, then with the Chiefs.

Elliott’s decline can also been seen in traditional metrics. He averaged 108.7 rushing yards per game in 2016, 98.3 yards per game in 2017 and 95.6 yards per game in 2018. Elliott’s touchdown rate has also declined two years in a row; he scored once every 22 touches in 2016, once every 29 touches in 2017 and once every 42 touches in 2018. He also had a higher rate of explosive plays of 20 yards or longer from the line of scrimmage in 2016 (once every 21 touches) than he did in 2017 (once every 30 touches) or 2018 (once every 25 touches).

To recap, the Cowboys just spent a historic amount of money on a running back who is, at best, average at the most critical components of his job, and at worst, below-average in qualities that contribute to a successful running game. And they did so at the same time that the league is paying less money to running backs, and that NFL success is ever more linked to strong passing games. How 'bout them Cowboys?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/09/04/ezekiel-elliott-cashed-with-massive-deal-numbers-say-he-isnt-worth-it/?arc404=true&noredirect=on

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10 minutes ago, DawnOfThemBirds said:

 

So you're saying Vanilla has changed flavors???.....

 

 

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What in the blue fuck?

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