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LANSING, Mich. (AP) — Michigan's elections bureau ordered an investigation Monday into substantial ballot discrepancies in a small portion of Detroit's voting precincts, after the discovery of a polling place where 300 people voted but only 50 ballots were properly sealed in a container.

Since learning of the issue last week during Michigan's presidential recount, state officials have learned of similar "significant mismatch" problems at roughly 20 of Detroit's 490 precincts, said Fred Woodhams, a spokesman for Republican Secretary of State Ruth Johnson. He said there is no reason to think votes were not counted and the differences would not have affected Republican Donald Trump's narrow victory over Democrat Hillary Clinton in the state.

Clinton won 95 percent of Detroit's vote.

Detroit elections officials told the state that in the one precinct, the 250 missing ballots were left in the tabulator bin, "but we want to verify this," Woodhams said. It was not immediately clear what caused the inconsistencies in other precincts.

Clinton cut into Trump's 10,704-vote win by only 102 votes during Michigan's election recount, which was requested by Green Party candidate Jill Stein and which covered more than 40 percent of the statewide vote before courts stopped it.

Many precincts could not be recounted, however — in Detroit and elsewhere — because the number of ballots in a sealed container did not match the number of voter names recorded in the poll book. In such cases, the election night totals stood.

It is not uncommon for there to be slight inconsistencies, typically due to human error.

"But when there's a significant mismatch, that's especially concerning," Woodhams said.

The ballots in question will be taken to the state capital, Lansing, for review. The investigation will take about three weeks.

Roughly 2 million of Michigan's 4.8 million ballots were recounted by hand, including about two-thirds of those in the suburban Detroit suburb of Oakland County and one-third of Wayne County, which includes Detroit.

"We do have a very accurate system that people should have confidence in," Woodhams said.

Clinton picked up 833 votes while Trump gained 731 more.

"It just simply would not have changed the result," Woodhams said of the recount.

A message seeking comment was left with Detroit elections director Daniel Baxter. He has blamed discrepancies on optical scanners that tally paper ballots.

All of Michigan's vote tabulators are at least a decade old — at the end of their life span — and acted their age on Election Day, with numerous malfunctions, state and local officials said. One in five in Detroit was reported affected.

The attorney who represented Stein in her failed recount bid, Mark Brewer, said the mechanical troubles led to an undercount of votes. He estimated nearly 2,000 votes were added as a result before the recount was ordered halted "and we probably would have picked up several thousand more had the recount been allowed to continue."

Detroit has been cash-strapped so maintenance may have been a bigger issue there than elsewhere.

"These machines should have been replaced years ago across the state," Brewer said.

Michigan plans to have new scanners in place for the 2018 elections.

Before the announcement Monday, both GOP and Democratic lawmakers had called for an investigation into the irregularities. House Democrats criticized the Detroit Department of Elections while Republicans said a probe was needed to determine if there was fraud or negligence.

Sen. Patrick Colbeck, a Canton Republican, on Monday welcomed the audit and said all problems should be documented.

"This needs to be done while memories are fresh in order to help devise a plan to eliminate such concerns for future elections," he said.

 

 

 

Basically, the shitty Detroit infrastructure system caused a bunch of fuck-ups. One in five voter machines was apparently affected and the scanners that take up these paper ballots were as well. 

I don't know if it was Breitbart or the Drudge Report where you got the second part your post, but it's hilarious nonetheless. Yeah I'm sure Daniel Baxter is a maniacal voting frauding liberal satan. Lol Alex Jones level conspiracy rhetoric.

 

You guys try to push this voter fraud shit so hard. It's comical. No factual study backs you up.  It doesn't logically make sense either. Democrats would never, ever, ever lose an election if millions of dead people and illegals voted every four years.

I think you need to leave your little bubble and come to reality

Your boy lost the popular vote. It's not that hard to imagine why. He was, by all accounts, the most dis-liked candidate of all time by the favorable numbers. Not to mention the major population centers, such as Cali and New York as well as Chicago, Atlanta, Houston, etc. are all decidedly liberal. It's not completely ridiculous. 
 

As far as voter fraud, again show me a study or a reputable organization that outlines it happening. You can't because it isn't.

There's no party affiliation to facts. 

For every case like the one in OP, where CJW's (Conservative Justice Warriors) jump to conclusions when there;s easy explainable reasons, there's a case like what happened in North Carolina recently.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/23/nc-gov-pat-mccrory-wont-concede-seeks-recount/

Gov. Pat McCrory, a Republican, formally requested a recount Tuesday after filing more than 50 challenges alleging voter fraud as the latest tally showed him trailing his Democratic rival, Attorney General Roy Cooper, by anywhere from 7,000 to 9,000 votes.

A recount would go into effect if the candidates are separated by fewer than 10,000 votes after all ballots are tabulated in a race with nearly 4.7 million votes cast.

While Democrats have pressured Mr. McCrory to concede, saying he has little chance of making up the deficit, the governor’s campaign has countered with examples of voter fraud, including ballots cast by dead people, ineligible felons and those also voting in other states.

“With many outstanding votes yet to be counted for the first time, legal challenges, ballot protests and voter-fraud allegations, we must keep open the ability to allow the established recount process to ensure every legal vote is counted properly,” McCrory campaign manager Russell Peck said in a statement.

 

Looks like some shit we read on here right? That millions of dead people vote every year?

Well...

McCrory called for more than 60,000 provisional and absentee ballots most of which were filed in Democratic strongholds ― to be tallied before he conceded. As votes came in, Cooper maintained an edge on McCrory, who officially filed for a statewide recount on Nov. 22, something he was eligible to do since the ballot count remained within 10,000 votes.

He didn’t stop there. McCrory’s campaign filed election protests in 52 counties, alleging dead people and felons had cast ballots. He further claimed that people had voted in multiple states and accused black voter outreach groups in Bladen County of conducting “a massive voter fraud scheme” ― despite how far-fetched it is to assume voter fraud is the reason behind any irregularities.

The campaign was especially wary of early votes cast in Durham County. McCrory had a 60,000-vote lead in the Democratic stronghold before 90,000 more ballots were tallied up late on election night. In the end, the governor lagged 2,500 votes behind Cooper. Those late ballots were hand-counted by county election officials after six data storage cards wouldn’t download election results. North Carolina’s Republican Party even accused the officials of operating with “bleary eyes and tired hands.”

Soon, however, McCrory’s attempts to draw out the election were subdued.

On Nov. 28, the state Board of Elections instructed local election boards to disregard any protest that “merely disputes the eligibility of a voter after Republican-controlled election boards across North Carolina dismissed McCrory’s election protests.

 

He got his ass kicked and used voter fraud as an excuse, and them promptly lost his challenge from a fucking Republican-controlled election board. That's how scarily out of touch you folks are. 

But I know this is a lost cause. You guys live in fantasy Beef Land. Where Liberals apparently run the entire planet and have installed blatant liberal bias into every single faucet of life, where Obama is somehow a socialist (LOL!), where voter fraud is apparently rampant yet the Democrats keep on losing badly, where white people and police are mistreated and discriminated against (LOL!), and where Climate Change somehow isn't happening. I can go on and on but it's pointless. 

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8 minutes ago, Kevo said:

Be careful...Willy might label you a Conservative Justice Warrior.

+1 for predicting the future 

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Did Willy just try to spam away this shit?

50 ballots in a precinct turned into 306 votes and Willy is like, "Nothing to see here.  Let me post a wall of fuckery to hide it."

 

What part of 392 precincts having voting box seal and log book numbers not match up with ballots in the boxes do you not understand?

Do you think posting something that spins this makes it just disappear?

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Willy is acting like the Project Veritas videos never happened.

And then criticizing us for complaining about fraud as his side cries about goddamn Russia hacking the election.

LOL, you can't make this shit up.

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When Willy posts those War and Peace-like comments...I don't read them anymore because he puts so many of his own twists in there that it feels like I'm wasting my time reading twisted leftist propaganda.

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http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/12/vote-audit/95358702/

Oh yeah, The Detroit News. A bastion of Republican propaganda.

 

The recount problems were the worst in Detroit, where discrepancies meant officials couldn’t recount votes in 392 of the city’s 662 precincts, or nearly 60 percent. State law that bars recounts for unbalanced precincts or ones with broken seals.

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99% of MSM will most likely not touch this story.....  They will let it fade and die,  while they  prop up the Russia Angle.. 

                                  It's okay for Liberals to literally cheat and scam.......and try to steal the election with both voter fraud and election fraud.                                If a foreign entity,  like wikileaks..........tries to shed some light on how corrupt libs are though.....   all hell will break loose.

                                

 

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Wouldn't surprise me if libs were running this kind of election fraud in many different  cities. 

 

Just proves how horrible a candidate Hillary was..   even with massive election fraud in MI,  she still couldn't win. 

 

I would fucking LOVE LOVE LOVE to audit the California votes.

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39 minutes ago, Beef said:

Willy is acting like the Project Veritas videos never happened.

And then criticizing us for complaining about fraud as his side cries about goddamn Russia hacking the election.

LOL, you can't make this shit up.

Just to "correct the record", I personally haven't said anything about Russia and the election. I don't really care for it personally. I think we should up our cyber security and certainly go after the Russians with sanctions if they did indeed. Though I don't buy it had any significant impact on the elections, and all the recounts prove that 

I don't know what you mean by my "side"....I have an ideaology, I don't work at the DNC or some shit. Politics isn't like two sports teams. I could care less about the democrats and the establishment and their talking points and excuses. They simply lost cause they hand picked a weak candidate.

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42 minutes ago, Kevo said:

When Willy posts those War and Peace-like comments...I don't read them anymore because he puts so many of his own twists in there that it feels like I'm wasting my time reading twisted leftist propaganda.

You know I work hard to please my liberal media elite overlords.

All those accounts that signed up and never post? Liberal bias mainstream media elites that work at the NYT, CNN, and NBC. They actually get their talking points directly from my posts. That's why they're so long. I got people counting on me to deliver.

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6 minutes ago, Willy Mo said:

You know I work hard to please my liberal media elite overlords.

All those accounts that signed up and never post? Liberal bias mainstream media elites that work at the NYT, CNN, and NBC. They actually get their talking points directly from my posts. That's why they're so long. I got people counting on me to deliver.

That really wouldn't surprise me.

At all.

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26 minutes ago, Pox said:

99% of MSM will most likely not touch this story.....  They will let it fade and die,  while they  prop up the Russia Angle.. 

                                  It's okay for Liberals to literally cheat and scam.......and try to steal the election with both voter fraud and election fraud.                                If a foreign entity,  like wikileaks..........tries to shed some light on how corrupt libs are though.....   all hell will break loose.

                                

 

I'm surprised Yahoo reported it.

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12 minutes ago, Willy Mo said:

Just to "correct the record", I personally haven't said anything about Russia and the election. I don't really care for it personally. I think we should up our cyber security and certainly go after the Russians with sanctions if they did indeed. Though I don't buy it had any significant impact on the elections, and all the recounts prove that 

I don't know what you mean by my "side"....I have an ideaology, I don't work at the DNC or some shit. Politics isn't like two sports teams. I could care less about the democrats and the establishment and their talking points and excuses. They simply lost cause they hand picked a weak candidate.

You're making everyone laugh. 

Yes, your side. As much as you try to distance yourself it's uncanny how every single argument you have is for that side against our side.  Every single one.

This thread is case in point.

How the fuck are you arguing "machine errors" when 50 turned into 306?

Are we really supposed to believe the poll workers in that facility mistook only 50 people entering their building as being over 300???

When the poll official in that district sealed that box with the ballots in it and wrote 306 on the seal he/she actually thought 306 people walked into that facility???

Come the fuck on, man.

If you don't acknowledge this as blatant fraud then you are a hopeless Leftwing delusional asshole.

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32 minutes ago, Beef said:

You're making everyone laugh. 

Yes, your side. As much as you try to distance yourself it's uncanny how every single argument you have is for that side against our side.  Every single one.

This thread is case in point.

How the fuck are you arguing "machine errors" when 50 turned into 306?

Are we really supposed to believe the poll workers in that facility mistook only 50 people entering their building as being over 300???

When the poll official in that district sealed that box with the ballots in it and wrote 306 on the seal he/she actually thought 306 people walked into that facility???

Come the fuck on, man.

If you don't acknowledge this as blatant fraud then you are a hopeless Leftwing delusional asshole.

You know you're on the borderline of insanity when you call someone not jumping to conclusions based on the circumstances delusional 

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3 minutes ago, Willy Mo said:

You know you're on the borderline of insanity when you call someone not jumping to conclusions based on the circumstances delusional 

You know you're on the borderline of insanity when you believe it's possible for 50 people to be mistook as 306.

GTFO, Willy.  You have no credibility here any longer. 

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37 minutes ago, Beef said:

You're making everyone laugh. 

Yes, your side. As much as you try to distance yourself it's uncanny how every single argument you have is for that side against our side.  Every single one.

This thread is case in point.

How the fuck are you arguing "machine errors" when 50 turned into 306?

Are we really supposed to believe the poll workers in that facility mistook only 50 people entering their building as being over 300???

When the poll official in that district sealed that box with the ballots in it and wrote 306 on the seal he/she actually thought 306 people walked into that facility???

Come the fuck on, man.

If you don't acknowledge this as blatant fraud then you are a hopeless Leftwing delusional asshole.

Willy  never starts threads condemning Democratic political moves.

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Just now, Kevo said:

Willy  never starts threads condemning Democratic political moves.

He's as full of shit about not "having a side" as he is about being a white hating racist.

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4 hours ago, Beef said:

Did Willy just try to spam away this shit?

50 ballots in a precinct turned into 306 votes and Willy is like, "Nothing to see here.  Let me post a wall of fuckery to hide it."

 

What part of 392 precincts having voting box seal and log book numbers not match up with ballots in the boxes do you not understand?

Do you think posting something that spins this makes it just disappear?

Willy is in the 'Talk over your opponent' phase of the Liberal debate playbook.

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An anonymous source within the CIA has stated that there were thousands of individuals roaming around Detroit during the election.    These certain individuals had Russian flags on their shirts  and many of them were heard, by several anonymous sources.    talking loudly,  back and forth   trying to figure out how to rig the election and make it look like Hillary was the one rigging the election.  

 

 

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18 hours ago, Willy Mo said:

Maybe you should stop being so offended by everything. Feelings aren't in vogue anymore. Damn pussy CJW's (Conservative Justice Warriors)

Tell us more about how that racist Trump is gonna destroy America again...

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Eventually we gonna have to address our education system.....throughout our country.

        I know liberals find it cute that liberal teachers are spewing liberal propaganda at kids.....trying to convert as many as possible  while shaming those that don't fall into line..  but..........  ha.....ha...  shit is not that funny anymore. 

 

How would liberals feel if most of the  professors and teachers were seemingly ultra-conservatives.......and they felt the need to spew as much ultra-conservative shit as humanly possible at their students.........and any student that disagrees with them......was shamed/bullied?

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23 hours ago, Beef said:

392 fucking voting precincts in Detroit had voting box seals and log books not match up with the number of paper ballots actually in the box.

In that one district, they had 50 ballots account for 306 votes.

And 95% of votes in Detroit went for Clinton.

Fucking cheaters.  And Trump still won the state.

Yea! I guess they really can't steal a landslide.

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you know, if this were the liberals who were upset, they would be calling for the professor to be fired.

why is it that republicans aren't? but instead asking her to be a professional professor again?

 

 

something can be learned here. 

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This is how delusional Lefties are.

7xHaUXf.jpg

 

Someone actually took the time to make that shit... and put "minimal partisan bias" under the MSM column.

LOL!  Thank god I wasn't sipping my coffee when I saw this.

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I still find it humorous that one or two here still maintain their stance that the MSM was fair and neutral.  lol.

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